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The Westport Housing Authority met on September 16, 2026, with Chair Timothy Cayton presiding. The board approved the meeting minutes from August 26, 2026, and warrants totaling $30,314.99. Fee Accountant Dan Robillard presented the FY27 budget, explaining that the state cap increase was zero percent this year, requiring budget cuts to offset mandated maintenance labor wage increases and rising trade contract costs. After reviewing reserve levels and surplus revenues from solar credits, the board unanimously voted to approve the FY27 budget, noting a new electronic signature submission process required by the state.
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All right, good morning everybody. Um, just start off by saying that we are being recorded for this meeting. Um, and next let's um start let's start by a pledge of allegiance.
0:19I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
0:36Have a uh call by I mean roll call.
0:44Uh roll call. Tim Kaitton here. Uh Liz Collins here. Pauline Growor here.
0:49Paul Stein here.
0:53Okay. Approval of the minutes of the August 26th, 2026 meets. Is there a second?
1:00Second.
1:00All in favor?
1:02Any opposed? Hearing none. So voted.
1:07Approval of the warrants 2025 in the amount of 30,3149 314.99.
1:18Is there a motion?
1:21Is there a second?
1:22Second.
1:24All right. Um just want to thank thank Pauline for uh being available to to sign all the checks for the month.
1:32Great. Good job. And uh okay so all in favor I hearing any opposed hearing none. So so moved. Okay. Uh I guess we got a consideration and approval of the West Point Housing Authority FY27 budget.
1:51That is why Dan Robelard is here. He is he is our fee count. And um just a uh uh just a couple of comments. There's a little bit of a change this year in how we approve the budget. In the past, if you've been on the board for a while, you know that you would all have to sign off on it.
2:09Yeah.
2:10Uh that's not happening this year. What will happen is uh you know, you can talk about the budget if you wish. You can approve the budget. Um and then you will each get an email with a link. You will click on the link and then you will approve the budget that way. It's all going to be electronic this year. We're not we're not submitting signed forms. That's something new.
2:34That's the new signature.
2:36Yeah.
2:36Is that across the state or is that create a new website and that's how everyone's going to sign it? You're going to approve it with your vote, but you're going to sign it with the electronic instead of a signature. Okay.
2:52A good question. Um before you could not do that. It's against the law, right?
2:58Okay. Now, what you're saying is we're signing off for No, you're still going to vote first.
3:08Yes.
3:08After you vote and you approve.
3:11I don't agree. I wouldn't vote for that one. Um, okay.
3:18The thing is, are we going to get something from the state that says that it is okay for us to do it? Because if we don't, I'm not signing.
3:32It's the state that's sending you the link.
3:34So, it should say something in there.
3:36It's the state that's sending you the link. The state website is going to send you.
3:39Yeah, it's not me.
3:40Yeah. He's going to tell you. He's going to tell the website ready to go and they're going to send the links. Okay.
3:47It's going to be the state that sends it.
3:49Okay.
3:51Once all the kinks are worked out, they not working properly everywhere. It looks like yours is working.
3:56Not every authorities is working right.
3:58It's brand new.
4:00Okay. Do we So, I'm going to turn it over to Dan for just a brief explanation on the budget. Uh it's it's um unfortunately it's not going to be a good year. Not uh not surprisingly with the with the funding the way it is. But I'll turn it over to Dan.
4:16Go ahead.
4:17So the biggest thing I always talk about lately been coming in and saying great news, substantial cap increase, 8% 11% stuff like that. Bad news cap increase is zero. We have to use the same budget level as last year. Um we are allowed um and required to give up the maintenance raises. They already got them. and they get their DLI letters. Department of Labor industry from the state determined
4:43their raises April 1st already. They got them. They're now budgeted for that's why you see a 3 and 12% increase in maintenance labor. Um so then I have to find another place to cover those expenses. Additionally, time goes up a little bit, health insurance goes up a little bit. So, not only do we have to not increase the budget, we have to find cuts to make to get it back in line. Um,
5:09and this is page four, by the way, starting on page four in your board.
5:13Looks like this.
5:16So, squeezed a couple hundred out of travel. My contract is up. Uh, my contract is not up, rather. We're in year two of my contract. It's going up $400 for the year. management fees is going up. $1,200 for the year. Um administrative other fortunately got a lot of money we weren't utilizing. That probably made ends meet. I cut $9,800 from there. That covered all the increases including the fact that we
5:46spent more on contract costs last year than we expected to. Don't be surprised.
5:50plumbers and electricians, all the trades people are getting with more and more expensive because it's getting hotter and hotter to even find one to come up in the water. So, we increase that 3,000 to cover what we spent last year. Hopefully, that's enough for this year. You never know. Um, and who informed you from the state that we weren't getting any more money?
6:13Who informed us? They published a 47page document called the budget guidelines that gave out both that came from the secretary of the executive office of housing and livable conditions came from the top the person who answers to the governor.
6:29Okay. Because I just wondered because Mike Roberts represents us here and he does all the budgets and I just wonder if Yeah, he does the state budget.
6:41He does the state budget, right? And this would this was all incorporated in to just above everything.
6:48Sure. And he's been a friend of housing authorities.
6:51Yeah.
6:51That's why we got the substantial increase throughout the last couple years. They knew this was coming. So they did everything they could to get as much out to us as they could when they could because they knew the state was coming.
7:04So So to keep politics out of it, but just this is all this is all flowing from the feds. We It's a It's a time of uncertainty, you know, down in Washington. A lot of stuff is being cut.
7:18Um and this is a reaction to this is it all goes downstream. And this is a reaction to what's going on more more the federal level than the state.
7:27Yes. But the state gets a substantial amount of money, especially in the housing industry, from the federal government. So that's really what's hurting.
7:36Yeah. That's that's what causes the big problem. Um, it's worse if you have federal programs in the housing authority. Those get hit really hard.
7:45Okay.
7:46Okay. So, I managed to pull that off.
7:50The what I had to do to balance it at the end is cut $1,400 out of material supplies, but we only spent less than five last year. So, $7,500 theoretically should be enough. It all depends on how many turnovers you have. And nobody knows what that's going to be. What condition are the units in when we go in there to fix them? Is it a $3,000 expense or a $10,000 expense? Can the
8:14guys do it all themselves or do they got to bring in outside? You know, those are the kind of questions that um we can't control for everybody.
8:25Yeah. Same problem everywhere. Um, so I still think you're going to make about $10,000 above and beyond what they're allowing us to do, which will go into your reserve unless emergencies come up that I just referred to. We might need extra apartment rehab money. We'll charge it to non-routine and we're going to get the work done anyway. The reason you have some of the surplus income is
8:48because of the solar program you participate in. We get some money for buying our electricity from a solar field. we get a cut of their profits.
8:57That money doesn't count by the state when they calculate subsidy. So that's how we have some extra money to work with above and beyond what they say would spend. So that's a nice safety net.
9:09Yeah. Question. Does this include like snow removal tool and stuff like that?
9:13That's what contract cost snow.
9:15And I know last year it was high.
9:17Yes.
9:17And also um we don't know what's going to happen this year. Exactly. You have which is why I had to add three grand.
9:24Don't fix it.
9:25Right. We spent 3 grand more than we expected to last year. It probably can be 100% blamed on snow. So the money's there in case it happens again.
9:35Um cuz we didn't need all the admin money. We had budgeted it, right?
9:38So hopefully this works out.
9:42Um and we're just trying to really break even this year.
9:46Mhm.
9:46Um and hope for better funding next year.
9:50That's right.
9:50I don't think that's going to be the case next year. I think it's two years.
9:53Yeah, that correct. I agree.
9:54I think it's two years.
9:55Yeah, I agree with you.
9:56Yeah, we have one more bad year after.
9:59That's that would be my guess. Just looking at the political landscape.
10:04I agree with you.
10:05Any questions about the budget?
10:08So, you're doing good. I mean, your reserves are 70%. Max is 100%. If you have more than 100%, they would take subsidy away from you. If you were below 35%, they would micromanage you even more than they already do. So, I always think the sweet spot is halfway between the two, which would be 67.5%.
10:28Yeah. Well, as of uh after after one month of the fiscal year, we're 83%. But that that'll come down.
10:36Yeah. The first month always looks good, you know, because there was some expenses in July that got moved to June because the GI ran, we haven't paid a health insurance bill because it's only paid quarterly. So, the first couple of months always look good. Plus, it's summertime. Yeah, because you're a junior lower.
10:52Yeah, expenses are lower. There's no need repairs more than anything else.
10:57Yep.
10:59Okay. Does anybody have any questions regarding this on the poor?
11:05Okay.
11:05I think it's a good budget and I and I think it's very workable and um I would I would uh I would urge passage.
11:14Okay. Okay. We need a vote today, right?
11:17Yes.
11:18Okay. Is there is there a motion to accept that report?
11:22So move.
11:23Is there a second?
11:25Second.
11:25Second.
11:27All in favor?
11:29I.
11:30Any opposed?
11:32Hearing none.
11:34So, thank you.
11:37Okay. Thank you very much. Uh, Dan, you're welcome.
11:41Always for the bad news. Thank you.
11:44I appreciate I tried to do the best I could for the bad news. Right. Right. I get it. I get it. I'm kidding. All right. So, now anything else?
11:54Management report. Many report. Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
11:59Chairman. In your um uh actually the one of the uh gentlemen.
12:06Um one thing that I that I just wanted to update uh both the board on and and and the residents that are assembled. Um, uh, several weeks ago I sent out a survey. I I sent out out the survey for that the the executive office of housing sends out. I sent that out to to all the residents. We've gotten a very good response.
12:28So, what I'm what I'm in the process residents, you mean?
12:31Correct.
12:32That's correct.
12:32Was a very good response. Uh, you know, a solid number. Um, so what I'm going to be doing is I I'm I'm I'm going to be assembling the responses and I'm going to give the board a report at the October meeting uh you know as far as you know what are the results of the survey and basically the survey is going to going to say you know what are you
12:56happy with what are you not happy with what do you like about the housing authority what can we do better and it's going to serve as a template now the executive office of housing sends out the survey supposedly every 3 or 4 years, but the feedback that I was getting from folks is that they've never seen a survey. Even the people that have been here for many years have never seen
13:18a survey. So, uh, what we did was we took the exact same survey that EOHLC sends out and we just we just sent it out again on our own. So this is going to be a very useful management tool for the housing authority to see what works and what we need to improve on.
13:40Exactly.
13:41Question tools.
13:44Yeah. Yeah.
13:44Rabbit rules.
13:45Yeah.
13:46So just just hold hold on one second D and then I'll um under under resident comments is fine. Yeah. Um and then um you know overall uh you know the housing authority as as I mentioned um had a very good first month of July. Um you know it's very tough to predict an entire fiscal year after the first month like Dan was just saying but we are uh you know we are in very good shape.
14:15Research are done for the most part. Um, I just wanted to announce while while I'm here to to the board and to the residents, Roxan, who is our new um administrative assistant, uh she'll she'll be leaving us actually.
14:34Tomorrow is her last day. Uh she she she obtained well, she uh she obtained another job. Uh she had she had applied to a job a year ago. Uh she was only seeking part-time. They all they had at the time was a full-time position. So, they had contacted her again after she accepted our position saying they had a part-time role. Allows her to work from home. Um, it's, you know, it's a better
15:01opportunity for her. So, we wish her well. Um, Roxanne was a temporary employee that we we were assigned from the uh, you know, the employment agency.
15:13So I'm in contact with the employment agency again to send us additional resume. So we will we will be filling the position fairly quickly. That's our expectation. In the interim it's going to revert back to the way we did it in between Chrisanne and Roxanne. The office will be covered by myself and and Christina.
15:35So um and that's really that's really all I have for the management report.
15:41Um, and I want to thank the board for a for your service and b for, you know, approving the FY3 budget.
15:52Okay. Um, anything under old business that we should know about?
16:00No.
16:01Anything under new business?
16:03Just that the next meeting uh the next meeting tenatively will be uh in October. Um, let me get you back.
16:16October, it's the third the uh third the 3rd Wednesday, which would be October 21st. So, our next meeting will be October 21st.
16:29Um, if anybody knows that they that they can't attend, just let me know. Um and then um in the in the way of an update, the uh governor's office on on boards contacted me. I guess Senator Roderick's has been in contact with them concerning uh Mr. Dudra's appointment and they have said that they would do what they can to, you know, fasttrack that. But that was that was several weeks ago. I
17:04haven't heard anything since. I I can follow up.
17:06Okay.
17:08Did you have a question, Paul?
17:10No. No. I was saying that's good news.
17:12Yeah. Okay.
17:13Okay. All right. That's it on the new business.
17:18All right. Any comments from the board members?
17:24Hear and none. Any open it up to comments from the residents.
17:29Okay. Um, going back to the survey, um, I've been here I lived here for eight years and I think I I did fill one out four years ago.
17:39I I was here eight years. I filled one out four years ago, a survey and we had to mail them back to the EO HLC. Correct.
17:48Yeah.
17:48At the time at the time. DHC.
17:51Yeah. The DHC.
17:51But so so you did receive a survey.
17:54Yeah. We had to mail it back to the state. No, this one.
17:58Well, this, you know, this was simply I I was reacting to the comments from other folks who had not seen a survey at all.
18:08So, what I did was the exact same survey that the state sent out was the survey that you folks just got.
18:16It's the exact same survey that the state comes out.
18:19So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to I mean, it's not going to it's not going to go into the state. It's going to come to me, right?
18:25And then I'm going to compile the results just like the state would do.
18:30Yeah.
18:30And then I'm I'm going to present that to the board. So, for example, one of the questions was, you know, so he's just doing it a little differently than Yeah. How often have you have you lost heat in your unit?
18:42You know, never, you know, once or twice, you know, happens every week, whatever. I'm gonna I'm you know I'm gonna compile that and in sort of a grid and it's gonna it's going to show me what we have to improve on in terms of resident services to you folks and it will also tell us what we're doing well like for example I can tell you just by glancing at them people have good things
19:09to say about David so there's I mean I can I can see that in the results that you people are very the residents are very satisfied with the maintenance uh with the with the service overall. It's the overall staff, you know.
19:23Right. Correct. Overall, correct. But the survey tends to encompass everything, you know. So, you know, and and it gives us it gives us a good benchmark to uh Okay. Well, gee, I I think everybody the only concern I had was the fact that we had to mail it back to the state.
19:39Now, it's now we mail it to the office.
19:41That was my that was my two different issues.
19:45Two different issues. the one you got from from the state.
19:47No, the same survey, Paul, the same survey. It's the same thing. We have the same survey. That's the same.
19:56It's being used differently.
19:57This is something that we're going to do in house.
19:59I'm just saying. Okay. It's not an argument. Okay.
20:02I agree.
20:03Okay. I'm just saying we had to mail it back to the state. One that I did four years ago.
20:08Right. And don't you agree it's better this way?
20:10Yes, I do.
20:11Okay. Cuz basically what happens is what happens when you mail it back to the state is they compile it just like we're going to do it, right? So now instead of doing the state doing it and then what'll happen is it will go into our performance management review audit, it'll be an addendum to that audit and that's you know that's what would happen to it and then and then the board would
20:37get the results in that fashion. this time this I'm going to compile it myself and then I'm going to share it with everybody. I'm going to share it with the board and I'm going to share it with whoever wants to come to the meeting. In fact, for those folks that don't come to the meeting and you know there's only uh you know there's only five of you that means 43
20:59residents aren't here. Um what I what I might do is I might compile the results in like a graph and then I will do a mailing to all the residents to keep them informed of what the survey said.
21:12Right.
21:13As well as thanking everybody for those that filled out this that took the time to fill it out.
21:18So any other questions?
21:21I was just wondering what happened to it when it went to the state. Did they change it?
21:26Well, no. He just explained it to me.
21:28Yeah.
21:28Yeah. They would just compile it and then they would they would insert it as part of the performance management review.
21:36But did anything ever change from that when the state did it versus you doing it now? Are things going to change with it versus what when they got it?
21:45Well, we have to we we have to see what what you know the results are and then any red flags or any any you know any items that residents identify that you know that need improvement. I mean, if if you know 75% of you are not happy with a certain thing, well, that that tends to be a red flag to me and okay, I got to focus on that.
22:09If you're, you know, if you're 100% satisfied with maintenance, for example, then I I know I don't have to micromanage Dave. Um so that you know I can you know this is going to afford me the opportunity to find out um what we have to focus on as a you know as a management entity.
22:32Go ahead back to the commissioners. Okay.
22:36No I was saying back to it's their their time to speak.
22:42Yeah. Yeah.
22:43Okay. Um, I have a question and I have a request.
22:50Uh, when you get the surveys back, you're going to go through them. You're going to come up with the good stuff and the bad stuff.
23:01You're going to attend to that.
23:03I would make a motion that the commissioners get a copy of that before you bring it to the board because it's going to be, you know, those things get heavy and, you know, there's a lot of stuff in them and it just it it eases up the commissioners by having that in front of us. So when you're giving your report, we're looking at it and we're saying, "Oh, I read that. Yeah, that's a good idea."
23:43I have no problem with that.
23:45Okay.
23:47In fact, motion.
23:49Okay.
23:50You got to form in the form of a motion.
23:52Did you say in the form of a motion?
23:54Yes.
23:54Is there a second?
23:56Second.
23:57All in favor?
23:59I.
24:00Any opposed? Hearing none. So motion. So just just for the minutes, the motion is that the board would like to to to see the results ahead of the October board meetings. Got it.
24:12Okay.
24:12It will just make the the meeting smoother, you know, and uh No worries. Okay. Questions back to that.
24:23Yeah. Don't forget to ask this and I've been asking it for meetings.
24:28Did we not get a new handbook which was promised a couple of meetings ago?
24:35The handbook uh being worked on.
24:38It it's it's actually it's in my it's in it's in my court at this time. So um and I'm not I'm not intentionally doing this but with the you know the budget guidelines coming out I was focused on budgets. So, that is that is definitely something that I I do have a draft right now and that's something that I'm reading through and um what I will do I I'm not I'm not going to promise that
25:07I'll have it I'll I'll have it within a couple of weeks, but I will move that up on my on my to-do list. The only reason I'm asking again is I did a little research online following protocol um chain of command however you want to look at it and certain things are done on the handbook which is not in a lease. So a lease is a lease you have to abide by it which
25:33people don't. I know for a fact they don't. And then there's the handbook which is distributed by the executive director or you management. Yeah, it's usually handed out when somebody moves in and every place is different and every place is different, right?
25:50And this place had one cuz I have one.
25:53It's it's typed papers stapled together is what it is. And there's a lot of things, like I said, I highlighted and I want to know if the new one is changing because there's a lot of things on there that should change or a lot of things on there that should be adhered to and they're not. when I was um when I was getting ready for the meeting today, I took the board packet
26:15out of you know my briefcase and um the you know the Westport handbook was in my briefcase. So I and it's been in my briefcase for quite some time.
26:27Can I go sneak and look at it?
26:28Yeah.
26:30But no, I um No, I I I know that that there uh you know there are revisions that have to be made to it. I know um it's it's been it's been reviewed once it, you know, it's come to me. I need to review it now. And uh I want to be, you know, I I want to be collaborative with with folks as well. My initial um my initial idea was to have um to have like
26:58a very small subset of residents review it. and that and that was not able to you know come to come to fruition. So um it you know um it was reviewed and then it's come to me. Dave reviewed it a little bit. Develin House our our maintenance supervisor reviewed it a little bit. So I'm in the process now of going through it. But um yeah I mean I can I can share it. we can have a
27:29resident meeting, you know, separate from a board meeting in which we can talk about this. I have no problem doing that whatsoever. Um, after the board sees it.
27:40What's that?
27:41After the board sees it.
27:42Well, even even before the board sees it, just just to get feedback from folks before it gets approved officially.
27:49Oh. um you know I don't want to we're not here to um you know you know crack the whip on people but you're right there are need to sometimes there are some basic things that are not being followed that need to be followed just from an aesthetic standpoint and even from a health and safety standpoint lately. Mhm.
28:12So, um those those need to be addressed and you know residents need to know that um when somebody's health and safety is at stake they they have to follow the you know terms of the of the of the rules.
28:28Thank you.
28:29You're welcome.
28:29Is there any other questions? Did you have a question?
28:32No.
28:33I thought she did. I thought Gohead. I have Go ahead. Go ahead. Um, when we're talking about the handbook, um, you're absolutely right. What year was it that you last saw a handbook?
28:51Oh, me?
28:52I have one.
28:53Yeah, we have I have one. My refrigerator.
28:56This was done.
28:59Well, I moved in in 2018. Well, it it was sent out and revised. That's the I've got one. I'm trying to say what I'm trying to say. It was a handbook and I was here for a long time. I was here and what happened was um the executive director had started to go through the handbook and then she decided it'd be a good idea to form a little committee of tenants.
29:31Yep. And I think I was the only commissioner.
29:37She allowed she was allowed one commissioner and it worked cuz we got a lot of stuff done and then it came to the tenants but it it worked.
29:50Mhm.
29:51You know.
29:53Okay.
29:53Saved a lot of work.
29:54Sure.
29:57And one last question. I'm sorry. Go ahead. If you have a Jan book and people don't adhere to what it says to do, what happens then?
30:05Well, then then they they get warned.
30:08Number one, if they still um if they still don't adhere to it, um then we we reserve the right to to issue a, you know, 30-day notice legally as as a lease violation.
30:24Okay. But you're saying lease, this isn't a lease, it's a handbook. There's a different if if you're violating the policies of the housing authority um you know and it's a and it's a health and safety matter then then it's something that that needs to be addressed if it's affecting everybody else's residency um then then you know it needs to be addressed and if I always give people
30:46the opportunity if you know if it's a you know if it's a flagrant violation for example if you know you know non-payment of rent is usually very very simple you either pay your rent or you don't. If you don't pay your rents, we will we'll contact you and say, "Can we help you? Are you, you know, why are you behind in rents? Can we work out a payment plan? If you owe $200 a month
31:13and you miss a month, now all of a sudden you owe $400." Well, okay. Can you pay the $200 and then maybe pay an extra 50 bucks for the next four months to pay that off? We'll do that. um or we'll seek outside agency assistance to help you to help you pay off the balance. We always work with somebody if they're not willing to work with us and and you know and they continue to
31:40violate the you know rules. We always reserve the right to go the legal route.
31:47Where I come from, I have to think of the health of of you know the agency. We just got through hearing that it's going to be a very challenging budget year.
31:56So, if I make the decision that, you know, Mrs. Smith is is, you know, you know, beyond help and is not is not um is not adhering to the rules and I want to I want to try to evict this person. I mean when we took over there were a couple of folks that were had been here for quite some time that we were in various stages of you know trying to evict and we were successful
32:25ultimately in doing that but it cost the agency altogether about $5,000 in legal fees and we just heard that it's a very tight budget year. So, if I'm going to go the legal route, I have to be able to justify it, number one. And number two, I have to be able to at least have the expectation that I'm I'm going to succeed in the end. Cuz you're always you're always at the mercy
32:54of the judge. When you evict somebody, you're always at the mercy of the judge.
32:58the judge. You could have all the evidence in the world, but if the if the judge says, "I'm not going to make I'm not going to make that 80year-old woman homeless, then eviction is really high.
33:12It's a very difficult thing." And Massachusetts and it's and that's nonpayment of rent.
33:18Well, well, it's everything. It's lease violations as well. But Massachusetts, and it's a good thing for folks up to a point, is a very tenant friendly state. Okay.
33:29Other states, they always side with the landlord, and you know, if if you're not following the rules, you're out.
33:37Massachusetts is very very protenant.
33:41Okay? Which doesn't doesn't mean that we can't evict people. We we we can, but it's just it's it's more of an involved process. Okay. And I know and I know the you know the rules or the the leases the lease violations that you're referring to. I've had that conversation with a number of people already uh about animals you know you know feeding the wild animals and all that. That's a
34:08problem. I've talked to the board of health here in town.
34:13They agree with me that that's a problem. What I want or what I've asked for is for the board of health to issue me a letter saying that um you know this is a health and safety matter. They agree with me that it is and that you know wild animals on the property should not be fed because you may think that oh isn't this cute? Look at the birds
34:36flying in and out. But if you put food out, you're and you're feeding the feral cats, then you've got raccoons and skunks and everything else. And um some of these animals could be raided and you know, it's a health matter. We I just got word or I got word recently that some buildings now have have a rodent problem. Okay, which I think there's a direct correlation between that issue
35:04and the fact that they're feeding the wildlife. Um, it's not a good thing to do. And um, I know I don't think there's anything nefarious going on. I think they're feeding the wildlife because oh, isn't this cute? I'm, you know, you know, letting these animals eat. Um, but it's it's from a health and safety, you know, issue. it's uh it's problematic. So we we you know we will be addressing that.
35:32Okay. So the burn figures that they're strictly out because I'm in the hospital so I don't know what the end result was.
35:38Well, we're going to I'm incorporating this as part of the handbook, but I'm also working with the I've I've reached out. We we've been able to identify I think two or three people that are the offenders. So these are the folks that I'm dealing with one on-one. Okay. And um you know up until now I I have not been successful. I'll say that right out.
36:02But um you know I'm I'm still I'm still working on it. And you know it's you know it um it's a work in progress. But I agree with people that um are not in favor of you know feeding the wild animals and those birds and the birds too cuz the what happens is the birds fly in and the all the seeds and and so forth fall onto the ground and that leads to other animals
36:29coming you know so it's not it's not just a bird thing. If it was just a I mean if the birds flew in and were neat about it, we wouldn't probably have a problem.
36:39Birds are pretty neat.
36:40But you know, it's Does that bridge too?
36:46You know, we had an issue at at another housing authority. We uh we had a rodent. I mean, people were up in arms.
36:52We had a rodent problem. You know, you have to solve this problem. We have we have we have mice in our apartments. So, we we called the cavalry out. We got the pest control folks out. They had a team of people. They put they put, you know, you know, they identified different holes in the in the area that poison down there. And then what do you think happened? The next week, I'm getting
37:17calls from the same people that complained about the mice. You're killing the bunnies.
37:24The bunnies are eating the poison and these cute little bunnies are dying. And what do you want me? You know, what do you want? I'm we're we're reacting to a problem, you know, and we're we're hiring the the you know, you know, the the pros to come out to do this. And this is what you know, there's no if there's holes in the ground.
37:49And that's where these rodents are coming from. That's where the poison's going to go. And you know, I can't control what other animals eat it, you know, but so so now that whole issue has kind of subsided. Now they now people don't complain about mice anymore because I tried to solve the problem, but you know, a couple of bunnies died.
38:12So, it is what it is.
38:14Any other questions?
38:16I have one I meant to ask you during your report.
38:23Do we have any openings right now?
38:27Openings as far as apartments are concerned. No.
38:30Okay.
38:30No, we're full.
38:31I was just curious.
38:32Yep.
38:32Okay.
38:33Full house.
38:37All right. With that, is there a motion to adjourn?
38:41So moved.
38:42Second.
38:44All in favor? I.
38:47Any opposed? Hearing none. So moved.